DalEM’s former head, Dr. David Petrie, appeared on the Canadian Medical Association Journal’s podcast to discuss the crisis in Canadian EDs. As co-chair of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians’ EM:POWER Task Force on the Future of Emergency Care, he is uniquely positioned to take a bird’s eye view of this pressing issue. In this episode, he and co-guest Dr. Catherine Varner, Toronto-based emergency physician and deputy editor of CMAJ, explore what a whole-system approach to resolving this pressing issue might look like.